Moza AB9/AB6 Force Feedback Setup

Setting up a Moza AB9/AB6 Force Feedback Base.

Version 1.6:- 20th of December, 2025. By John Blyth (VH-GJB)


I recently went a little mad. I had been waiting for some time for a reasonably priced force feedback base to be developed that I could use with Condor 3. The recent release of Moza’s AB6 base, which has half the power of the AB9’s 9Nm forced me to start making decisions.


I nearly went for the AB6, which was cheaper and has additional buttons and small levers, but in the end, I decided to go with the belt-driven AB9, rather than the gear driven AB6. A major reason was that I am using my all-metal Thrustmaster Warthog flight slick and a 10cm stick extension, so I wanted to be sure the Moza system could handle the extra weight and leverage of that combination. The happy outcome is that the combination works incredibly well with great power and smoothness.


My Moza AB9 joystick adapter for Next Level Racing Flight Simulator cockpit from PrintingCorp in Birmensdorf, Switzerland has arrived, which mounts the Moza AB9 about 20cm lower, which gives a very comfortable stick position with my 10cm stick extension.

However, if you are wanting to use the standard Next Level Racing mount, that works as well, although it sits rather high, it is still quite usable. In face, if you don't have a stick extension, it would be a good  height.

In spite of what AI told me, the Moza Force Feedback Cockpit software doesn’t allow you to setup specific button or switch assignments for games Games/Simulations - even the ones they directly support. The software is specifically to control the Force Feedback function only.


For Joystick and HOTAS input bindings I entered my axis assignments as below, and used the current stable version of Joystick Gremlin EX – version 13.40.16ex m72 to provide an incredible level of flexibility in the assignment of my many many buttons and switches on my Thrustmaster Warthog system. I had some stability issues with the test releases of Joystick Gremlin EX, so I went back to version 13.40.16ex m72 , which seems rock solid.


I need to emphasise this. You ONLY USE THE MOZA COCKPIT SOFTWARE FOR FORCE FEEDBACK SETTINGS! All Condor input settings are either bound in Condor 3 itself, and/or you use software like Joystick Gremlin EX, Thrustmaster GUI/Scripting, or JoyToKey. You don’t set any  button assignments in the MOZA AB9 software.

When flying, I follow this process:-

  1. Turn on the Moza AB9 base to activate the force feedback.
  2. Start the Moza Cockpit Software.
  3. Wait 15 seconds, then start the Joystick Gremlin software.
  4. Start optional software such as Marc Till’s wonderful CoTASA Condor utility, and any others you may require.

I have automated this process with a simple Dos batch file, which also checks to see if the Moza AB9 is switched on. (See Appendix A).


If you just have a basic sort of Joystick and no throttle or pedals, then you don’t really need Joystick Gremlin EX. However, with my Thrustmaster Warthog stick, HOTAS, and TPR rudders, I wanted maximum flexibility and to be able to use key binding across all devices, as this is what I enjoyed with the Thrustmaster GUI/Scripting apps.


However, now that the Thrustmaster stick is mounted on the Moza AB9 base, I needed to look for an alternative mapping program. Joystick Gremlin EX does everything the Thrustmaster software did, and considerably more easily too!


Joystick Gremlin EX effectively “combines” all your devices together in a non-physical sense, so I have:-

  1. Stick button 3 acts as a universal “Shift” button.
  2. Switches 13 and 14, when in the on position provide an extra two “layers” of inputs, while when there are both off (it’s a three-way switch), a third layer of controls is available.

This means that every button and switch on my Thrustmaster Warthog combination can have 6 functions, depending on whether the Stick button 3 is push or not, and/or on  the position of the three way switch on the HOTAS.


These are my current settings (updated 20th December, 2025) for the Force Feedback effects. Nice and light to fly with, while providing nicely obvious trim and stall feedback. As Condor 3 uses Native Force Feedback, I have found increasing the Overall and Game Force Feedback to 100% gives the best effect.

I had a couple of strange glitches on my first flight with the MOZA AB9, when the elevator suddenly tried to fight with me. Letting go of the stick recentred things, but it was disconcerting. A helpful user on the MOZA Discord Server suggested turning off Adaptive Centering Compensation would be a good idea too.

I have a stick extension, and the software FAQ recommends that the Grip Removal Protection be set to OFF in this case, and I have not had the issue since. It may also be wise if you are using a non-MOZA stick, as I am. That setting in in the Special tab.

Below is a sample pages from Joystick Gremlin EX showing how I set up button 3 on the stick to give a “Shifted” layer.

This is how to set the other layers via the switches 13 and 14 on the HOTAS. In the second image you can see that the action will be fire only in these circumstances.

  1. Button 3 on the stick is PRESSED.
  2. Switches 13 and 14 are in the OFF position of the three-way switch – i.e., in the middle position.

Appendix A:-

This is my pre-flight start up Batch file to check Moza AB9 is powered up, then load other utilities. All the items being opened need to be an icon on your desktop.

@echo off
REM ***** MODIFY THE START COMANDS BELOW TO SUIT YOUR NEEDS! *****
REM ***** By John Blyth 

setlocal

rem Default to local Desktop
set "DESKTOP=%USERPROFILE%\Desktop"

rem Check if OneDrive Desktop exists
if exist "%USERPROFILE%\OneDrive\Desktop" (
    set "DESKTOP=%USERPROFILE%\OneDrive\Desktop"
)

echo Waiting for Moza AB9 joystick...

:waitloop
powershell -NoProfile -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -File "%SCRIPT_DIR%Find_Joystick.ps1"

if %errorlevel%==0 (
    echo AB9 ready, continuing startup...
    goto continue
) else (
    echo Not ready yet... retrying in 5s
    timeout /t 5 >nul
    goto waitloop
)

:continue
echo Active Desktop is: %DESKTOP%
cd /d "%DESKTOP%"

REM AutoHotKey Script-bring LX9070 or CoMoMap into Focus and Return to Condor
Start "" "Basic Condor Function Keys.lnk"
REM Start Virtual Ports Serial Emulator for CoTASA and CoMoMap and others
Start "" "CondorCom1Connection.lnk"
REM Start Discord
Start "" "Discord.lnk"
REM Start CoTASA
Start "" "CoTASA C3.lnk"
REM Start Moza AB9 base
Start "" "MOZA Cockpit.lnk"               
REM Wait 15 seconds for AB9 to start so device is available for Joystick Gremlin EX when it starts
TIMEOUT /T 15
REM Start Joystick Gremlin EX
Start "" "Gremlin Ex.lnk"

goto End

:End
cd /d "%DESKTOP%"
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